VaCooL
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posted on 17-3-2005 at 17:02
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Allowed or not?
I have read this on Le Mans's homepage :
Link:http://www.lemans.org/univers_sport/actualite/articles/pages/2005_02_25_gd_01_maserati_gb.html
THE MASERATI AT SEBRING: THE A.C.O’S OFFICIAL POSITION
The ‘AUTOMOBILE CLUB DE L’OUEST’ reminds the parties concerned that the MC 12 does not comply with the Technical Regulations and is not
homologated. Thus, this car is not allowed to take part in events run under the ‘LE MANS’ label.
On no occasion did the A.C.O officials have any contact with either the F.IA. or I.M.S.A concerning the control of the performance of this car.
Daniel POISSENOT
Assistant General Manager
Does this mean the car are not allowed on the slot car tracks?
And is the Enzo alowed by A.C.O. ?
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tamar
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posted on 18-3-2005 at 06:40
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Maserati MC12: slot or not
Hello Vacool
I'll answer your last question first.
"Does the Enzo have a A.C.O. homologation ?
No!: As Ferrari never planned to race the Enzo at Le Mans they have not offered the car to the A.C.O. for homologation.
Ferrari did however run several test with a modified Enzo as a test bed for what was to become the MC 12.
for more info see the LMS Enzo profile
"Does the lack of a A.C.O. homologation means that the Maserati MC 12 (or any other car) wont be allowed on (LMS) slot
tracks?
No!: If a 1/24 model of the MC12 would be made and would comply with the tech rules, it would be allowed to race!
In short, the selection criteria if a car is eligible for the LMS races are:
- Has the car been entered at "Le Mans" or any other Major "Endurance" race (series).
The MC 12 hasn't raced at Le Mans (yet), but has been raced in the 2004 FIA GT series as a GTS (Although not eligible for points). So that's a
yes
- Does the car fit the period as described in the LMS Tech rules.
2004 fits the period for LM(P)GT(S) cars of 1995 and onwards, so that's a second yes.
- Does the 1/24 model comply with the LMS Tech rules.
Unfortunately this remains a hypothetical question as no 1/24 model of the Maser has been released or even announced.
But even in its current form (2096mm wide) a 1/24 MC 12 would fit within the max 86mm bodywidth described in the LMS rules. So hopefully that's a
third Yes!!!
Personally I would love to see some one make this model. At the moment only Carrera has announced a MC 12
but only in 1/32nd scale 
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VaCooL
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posted on 18-3-2005 at 06:54
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Thanks for the fine reply
Whats just say it all and yes it's a fine car, but that is just a matter of which car your into 
Regards Jan
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posted on 18-3-2005 at 10:20
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Maserati MC 12: Sportscar Racing political games
For a bit more background info the Maserati MC 12 ...a breef insight in the reeling and dealing of 1/1 sportscar racing political games .
The powers that be
With the arrival of the Maserati MC 12 the goal posts in GT racing shifted once again.
So far the MC 12 has been a controversial car to say the least, but one that the "powers that be" at the FIA were determined to see racing.
From the onset its was clear that the MC 12 would on the edge of breaching the "spirit of the rules".
First of all it was a purposely buildt racer, not a developement from a production based street car.
Secondly it had a fullly carbon tub/chassis (not alowed by the 2004 FIA rules).
And last but not least it was run by what only could be considered a "Manufacturer" team.
A Quick Fix
The first problem was fixed by Maserati as it presented its "streetlegal" MC 12 Stradale at the 2004 Geneva Autosalon.
The others were "easily" corrected by the FIA as it did a 180º on its rules, allowing both carbon chassis and manufacturer entries for 2005. To
make sure that the car would be ready for 2005 they allowed Maserati to race the car in the remaining 2004 series, although it would not be able to
score points.
So this year with the help of the mighty FIA the MC 12 was ready to conquer the "Sportscar" world......
although not the whole world....
Egalité,....
..In a small village in France, a group of brave Gallios resisted the "Roman" conqueror by stating that " Zie car was simply to wide and too
longue"
Maserati would have to modify its car to the same 5000 x 2000mm max dimensions as respected by all the other competitors if it wanted to be allowed to
take part in the LM 24 hrs, LEMS or ALMS.
Grudgingly Maserati promised to build an all new car to the ACO specs, but still wanted to race their already fully prepared current car.... They
turned their attention to the land of oppertunity, the USA or more specific in this case the American Le Mans Series.
Looking for a playmate...
In the states IMSA (the ALMS governing body) and GARRA (Daytona 24hrs and Grand Am series) are in direct competion in getting more teams interested in
their series. For the ALMS this goes especially for the GT1 class, where the competition has been thin. (In 2004 Corvette's C5 had no "real"
opponent)
Although run under the "LE MANS" label and rules, the Americans have been known to do things "their way" if it serves their interest better. Last
year they chose to postpone the "new ACO LMP" regulations so their teams/clients could still race their "old cars" and surpise, surprise,....
decided to allow the Maserati in.
GM would get a much needed "play mate" for its new Corvette C6 and Maserati could race what they had until their new and legal car is ready to
go.
A development not welcomed by some of the other entrants, mainly Aston Martin aka Prodrive aka David Richards.
So here's where the plot thickness...
In the run up to the Sebring 12hrs, Richards filed a official protest against the MC 12, stating the car was not compliant to ACO rules.
As a resonse Maserati pointed out, in a press conference, that they were "invited by IMSA" to take part in the ALMS series" and that
“the MC 12 is legal to run in the FIA series, and because the ACO and the FIA regulations are “the same”, were are able to run here also.
Well...that as we know is not intirely true! As it was quickly clarified by an ACO statement.
"Noting the decision by the ALMS to put the MASERATI MC 12 on the list of entries for the coming SEBRING 12 HOURS.
Reminding the parties concerned that the MC 12 does not comply with the Technical Regulations and is not homologated.
Thus, this car is not allowed to take part in events run under the ‘LE MANS’ label.
Having not had any contact with either the F.IA. or I.M.S.A concerning the control of the performance of this car."
So is the MC 12 out...or in?
Liberté
The latest development comes from IMSA as it ruled on Prodrive's protest, or actually stated that they had no ground to protest at all, stating that
"Pursuant to various sections of the (FIA) International Sporting Code..IMSA has the authority to promulgate and enforce its own rules"
"...the IMSA Code takes precedence (over the ACO) as the governing body of rules for all events sanctioned by IMSA"
In layman terms this means that although they agreed to run the ALMS to ACO rules they consider the FIA rules as "higher" and have the freedom to
make their own rules and use the FIA homologation to allow the car in.
Fraternité
Besides creating a possible divide in the recent brotherhood of sportscar racing (ACO, IMSA, and FIA ), the decision of IMSA to go its own way opens
up all sorts of scenarios in the future.
Much like the sport went through in the late ‘90s, when the GT class wars escalated from a road going McLaren, to pure prototypes like the Porsche
GT1 to the Mercedes CLK series.
Which is exactly what Dave Richards and Prodrive want to prevent.
My personal view...it is already to late.
The existence of the MC 12 allone proves that "in sportscar racing" history is most likely to repeat its self over and over again.
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VaCooL
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posted on 18-3-2005 at 17:39
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I sure can agree it's too late again, but as you say it will happen again!
Once a team or car manufacture find some holes in the rules, they build a car to the limits (like the Porsche 956-962).
Thats just a question of time, the A.C.O approve the MC12 and maybe we will se the car next year in Le Mans?
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