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tamar
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posted on 9-3-2007 at 00:28
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Workshop Mold making and Lamination 17-18 March
Hallo slotters
Zoals beloofd tijdens de laatste races is er volgend weekend een workshop Lamineren en Mallen maken in Amsterdam.
Hello Slotters
As promised during the last races there will be a Mold making and Lamination workshop in Amsterdam next weekend
Tijdens de workshop zal ik uitleg geven over hoe je een siliconen mal maakt en hoe je daarna een body lamineert.
Ook is er de mogenlijkheid om tijdens dat weekend je eigen siliconen mal te maken en een body te lamineren (het is tenslotte een werk shop). Het is de
bedoeling dat je na deze workshop zelfstandig thuis aan de gang kunt gaan.
During the workshop I will explain how to make a silicone mold and how you laminate a body. During the weeekend there's the possebility to make
your own mold and laminate your own body (after all it is a work shop)
Goal of the workshop is that you'll be able to make your own mold's and laminations @ home
Gezien de droogtijdens van de mallen en bodies die er tijdens de workshop gemaakt gaan worden heb je het hele weekend nodig, overnachting in Amsterdam
(of nabije omgeving) is dus noodzakelijk.
Due to the curing time of both the silicone and the laminations you will need the whole weekend so an overnight stay in Amsterdam (or Amsterdam
area) is neccesary
Daar er voor diegenen die aan de workshop deelenemen materialen moeten worden gehaald (Epoxyhars, glasvezel & carbon matjes, etc ) is het van belang
dat ik weet wie er gaan komen.
As we will have to order materials (Epxoyresin, GFK and Carbon etc) for those attending the workshop, it is important that we know who will
come
Dus graag even een mailtje naar mij of een berichtje in dit draadje, ook als je hulp nodig hebt voor het vinden van een slaap plaats.
So if you want to attend this workshop, please confirm that your coming via this thread. Do you need help finding acommodation..post here as well
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posted on 9-3-2007 at 00:50
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Hi Tamar,
now I know the date, but where is it?
Thanks for a short hint
Regards
Udo
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tamar
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posted on 9-3-2007 at 01:02
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Workshop Location
Hello Udo
Your up late...and fast too, I was still editing the post and you've already replied 
Location of the workshop is
Victoryplein 25 basement, Amsterdam, The Netherlands....
...the location of "the club formerly know as Hot Slot"
Start time will be Saturday morning, exact time depending on when most guys can be in Amsterdam, although some will probably come Friday evening.
If you mail me I will send you an itenary.
It is also helpfull if those who want to attend, tell me what they would like to do most, so I can prepare somthing next week
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tamar
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posted on 9-3-2007 at 01:38
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Materiaal Kosten Material Cost's
Hier een indicatie van je je kwijt bent aan materialen.
Here an idication of what you'll need for the materials
- GFK (80grm2) and some Carbon €10,-
- Modelling clay € 5,-
- Epoxy resin (200gr) € 7,5
- Epoxy harder (fast) 100gr € 5,-
- Epoxy harder (fast) 500gr € 5,-
- Silicone Rubber (1kg) € 35,-
- Small stuff
(gloves, brushes, mixing cups, wood, ect) €15
Alles bij elkaar komt dat op zo'n €85, en aangezien ik dat zal moeten voor financieren.... wie hier zich aanmeld krijgt dat ook doorberekend of hij
nou komt of niet, ik neem aan dat ieder een dat wel kan begrijpen
All together some €85, and as I will have to buy this stuff before, those who post that they're coming will be billed for this even if they
dont show up! I hope every body can understand this
Noot: Voor het lamineren gebruik ik een speciale dikkere Epoxy hars, het voordeel hiervan is dat deze beter aan de wanden van de siliconen mal kleeft
en niet zo snel naar de bodem vloeit, het nadeel is dat deze hars alleen door de firma Polyservice wordt gemaakt. Bij navraag versturen wel naar het
buitenland, maar gezien dat het volgens de wet "chemicalien" zijn is dit duur.
Als je meer dan 200gr Epoxy hars mee naar huis wilt nemen meldt dat dan (1kg hars € 24 , 500gr harder €15)
Note: I use a special thicker Epoxy resin to laminate the bodies, the advantage is that this resin "sticks" better to the sides of the silicone
mold (it does'nt flow so easy to the bottom of your mold) the downside is that its only produced by my local supplier Polyservice. Upon request they
do ship abroad but as these are "chemicals" shipment is expensive. Should you want to take more Epoxy resin home let me know (1kg hars € 24 ,
500gr harder €15)
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posted on 10-3-2007 at 13:02
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WILL be there too.... what should I bring?
Would like to Vacum form some stuff too -
and need decal tips .... possible?
The 85€ worth of stuff will be enough for
how many bodies? - might need a bit more....
will be coming Friday evening, can you suggest
a hotel room?
See u soon,
Fola
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posted on 10-3-2007 at 15:12
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fola
WILL be there too.... what should I bring?
Would like to Vacum form some stuff too -
and need decal tips .... possible?
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Most of the stuff you'll need we can supply, but bringing 2 pairs pair of scissors will help (buy some be new cheap scissors). Decal tips no problem.
Also as we will spend a lot of time "waiting" bring some of your cars, we'll drop by the new "Hotslot" track.
The Guy that does our vacforming is fully booked for at least another week, but you can make the master's and leave them here. I can send them to you
when they're done
| Quote: | Originally posted by fola
The 85€ worth of stuff will be enough for
how many bodies? - might need a bit more....
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You use some 50- 60 grams of mixed epoxy p/body (lot of waist material in the mixing cups) So that should be enough for 4-5 bodies.
You use ± 800 gr of silicone for a body mold, so you've got some extra for inserts and small detail stuff.
Silicone can be sourced locally that's not a problem, but you might want a bigger quantity of Epoxy.
I'll get you a 1kg can of epoxy resin, that uincluding the harder will cost you €40
I made the list on what you need minimally...also not everybody is on the same buget for this hobby
| Quote: | Originally posted by fola
will be coming Friday evening, can you suggest
a hotel room?
See u soon, |
Call or Skype me 2 night, lost of hotels in Amsterdam, from less expensive to very expensive, easier to talk than write.
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posted on 10-3-2007 at 17:02
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Tamar, what are the chance you, or Gabe/Wellen/Nick could maybe video the processes?? For me especially, this would be a huge wealth of knowledge, and
I'd be prepared to pay for the Video etc naturally?
Please try and see if this can be done..
Best regards
Al
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tamar
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posted on 11-3-2007 at 02:55
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Video .....
...killed the radio stars....
...and Skype killed video
Boet..as an IT man shame on you video ......how outdated 
I'll be too busy to make a video this weekend, but as an idea, in the future we might get a small webcam and do a Skype session..one on
one...interactive.....
Today's technology
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posted on 11-3-2007 at 16:53
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Hi Tamar
I also wait for video stars...
I can´t travel for the worshop... We have the first race of Spanish Model-Cars in La Rioja (you remenber the wines...)
Best regards
Rural Slot
Alvaro Sarabia
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posted on 11-3-2007 at 17:43
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Video could become a photo session
Hi All and Alvaro
I will be there,and will make a photoshoot of the things we do
Edit with explaining how we did it.
Would that be of any help ?
Greetz Gert
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posted on 11-3-2007 at 19:37
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Thank you Gert
I wait for your tutorial...
I hope see you again in Alsdorf.
Best regards
Rural Slot
Alvaro Sarabia
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posted on 13-3-2007 at 13:47
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Google Map of Victorieplein 25
For those who don't know where the Hotslot factory resides
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posted on 15-3-2007 at 10:27
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Gert,
that WILL be cool, and MOST helpful.. I don't think Mr T understands that we're still in 3rd World Africa, and BANDWIDTH will not be sufficient for
"todays technology".. Plus, a Video of the processes could be a worthwhile fundraising excercise in disguise.. 
But, ANYTHING will most appretiated guys..
Be cool.
Greetz
Big Al
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posted on 15-3-2007 at 17:55
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FIRE @ WILL
Hello Boet
Since you "Zuiderlingen" have to "inhale" the www via a frikking straw I'll hand Gert the camera and tell him he can "fire at will"
greetz
Tamar
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posted on 15-3-2007 at 20:14
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Greetz to you too my good friend....
Big Al
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posted on 19-3-2007 at 10:21
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Hey Guys,
i miss some pics of what you´ve learned last weekend
I can´t believe that the results are so 
kind regards
Udo
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posted on 19-3-2007 at 11:51
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For all you curious Mad Slotterz and builders out there.
YOU MISSED AN UNBELIEVABLE EXPERIENCE!!!!!!!!!
Tamar, Gert, Gabi and everyone else, its was a fantastic weekend!!
Thanks for making it happen
Fola
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posted on 19-3-2007 at 13:59
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Workshop pictures
HEllo Guys
Fola, Oscar, Gabe & Gert made most of the pics so I guess they'll post as soon as they can "develop" them
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posted on 19-3-2007 at 19:25
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HMMMMM
Was that my camera, cant recal bringing one
Hi Sonic i´m glad you had a great weekend and hope to see some pictures from your camera
Greetz All positions
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posted on 19-3-2007 at 22:07
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I want to thank everyone(Gert,Gabi,henry,Willem) for the fantastic weekend and especially Tamar for his expert explanation and hospitality .Now we
transmit the saga towards the following.
Many thanks boys!
Grtz Jan
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posted on 20-3-2007 at 03:14
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New born
Hello Jan
Nice to hear you've enjoyed yourself...BTW
....you've delivered a healty new born into the slot world...I took the 575 out of the mold and she's perfect.
Congratulations
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posted on 20-3-2007 at 12:19
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Hi guys,,,,
Sounds like it was very successful, good work Team RFH.
Now where would we find the Pictures of the event???
Big Al
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posted on 20-3-2007 at 19:45
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I 'am really looking forworth to see the 575. I'll hope that Gert will pass very soon in Amsterdam so i can see him with my own eyes.
Many thanks for the support tamar
Grtz. Jan
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posted on 23-3-2007 at 09:34
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NEED YOUR PICTURES !!!!
HELLO FOLA, OSCAR, JAN
I NEED YOUR PICTURES SO PLEAE MAIL THEM TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Since all of you took pictures at some time or the other, I need all your pictures so I (or actually Gert) can combine them in to a coherent and logic
story!!!!!!!!
SO get on with it guys, mail me
greetz
Tamar
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posted on 23-3-2007 at 10:55
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Please I`m also waith for the pictures...
Thanks
Rural Slot
Alvaro Sarabia
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